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Evidentally several schools like this one exist across the country. They exist to pound the ever-living shit out of kids until they bend to some notion of "normality" (the socially-conservative fundamentalist kind). Your parents' sign away their and your's rights, the school kidnaps you, cuts off all contact from the outside world for you, beats you, tortures you, brainwashes you until you're a broken husk of a human being. Oh, and don't "act up" or they'll send you to Jamaica where it's even easier to cut you off from the rest of the world. And child labor laws are much weaker there.

All to "cure" you being gay, or atheist, or socially awkward, or what have you. For just 3000 a month, your child can be 'normal' too.

And apparently this is legal.

What in the ever loving fuck??
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:iconleighad:
To be fair, these places have really nice websites and brochures and New Horizons (I may have the name wrong) even brags about training its people to watch for signs of abuse. They even train their staff in CPR in suicide prevention (*ahem* is there a particular reason we should be concerned our kids will kill themselves while they're). (I think having quotes from current students about how great it is there was a bit over the top since they're likely to lie not to lose a meal or get stuck their longer)

Sometimes well-meaning parents send their children here for legitimate behavioral problems in hopes of getting treatment, not stupid religious differences. These parents would likely remove their children if they knew what was going on, but these places monitor and control all communication making it impossible for kids to tell their parents.

Plus since these places are for "bad kids," no one believes them. They're just lying or exaggerating - hardly a credible witness. Unfortunately, that outlook is what makes them so vulnerable. Same way that mental institutions can get away with abuse because its denizens are all crazy and paranoid and therefore not credible (that said, abuse in mental institutions isn't part of the "program," it's just hard to get people to believe you when you suffer delusions, hallucinations, paranoia, or can't coherently communicate to others).
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:iconamaroq-wolf:
Holy shit. I thought you were talking about normal public schooling for a second there. This is literally like concentration camps.

Many of the things the staff there do to the kids are the same things the Nazis did to people in the concentration camps. Fucked around with them on a whim. Assigned them to groups where the whole group was responsible for the actions of the individual. Etc. It was their emotionalist and collectivist philosophy manifest in physical form, forced on defenseless victims.

I seriously recommend reading The Ominous Parallels, by Dr. Leonard Peikoff. He examines the philosophical history of Germany leading up to the takeover of Hitler, and compares it to the current philosophical trends in America, noting the many "Ominous Parallels" between pre-Nazi Germany and modern America.
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procon-8 Mar 3, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
Whether a child becomes a conservative, liberal, gay, straight, atheiest, Christian, a hippie, etc.
They should come to that conclusion themselves. Any self respecting parent should know this.
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Nine-By-Eight Mar 1, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Jesus Christ......!
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Onni-Hitsok Mar 1, 2012  Student Filmographer
Control and Obedience...

Two of the things people in power want out of the poor, or mid class people of this world... If they cannot control them then they will destroy them.

This kind of thing invokes fanatical behavior no matter what ones beliefs are...

If someone can produce a copy of the contracts that are signed for this kind of thing im sure they will have some way to make it all seem legal... If it sounds the way it does to me than its in the contracts...
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:icondawnsentinel:
Oh come on, It's like not public schools are any different.
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FablePaint Feb 27, 2012  Professional Filmographer
Not sure if joke...
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:iconsilver-comet:
Yeah these things periodically get shut down (although not even a little bit as often as they should be) I kind of want to go in with a rocket launcher and a convoy of trucks and steal these children away and teach them that it is okay to be themselves and things are not horrible.

Ugh seriously these "schools" piss me off so much.
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MoonstalkerWerewolf Feb 27, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I think people should be calling such places hypocritical of the real message. And of course people will point fingers, which is not a good way to go...It's inaccurate to say all those who have some religion are a bunch of lowlife abusive nutcases, because the vast majority are not. When you have fanatics with inherently evil intentions that they blindly back by religion when the religion likely speaks AGAINST such abuse, that's not the religion's fault. It's the people who use it as an excuse to justify their own evil. I myself am Catholic and I don't stand for anything like that. That's outrageous and wouldn't be what God or Jesus want at all...that's a matter of fact. People like that overlook the real message and enforce distortions with hate and abuse.

Anything can be sullied at the hands of a human being when they have evil intentions. It's best not to point fingers at particular groups; people hate each other for just being different and that goes for everyone. Not all atheists and such are tolerant, not all Christians are intolerant hypocrites. And America is not full of places like these. Generalizing is always a bane.
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:icondimensionsatire:
It's sad that the few nutjobs make a bad name for everyone else. (Staunch agnostic and proud, I wouldn't have survived that place.)
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