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Evidentally several schools like this one exist across the country. They exist to pound the ever-living shit out of kids until they bend to some notion of "normality" (the socially-conservative fundamentalist kind). Your parents' sign away their and your's rights, the school kidnaps you, cuts off all contact from the outside world for you, beats you, tortures you, brainwashes you until you're a broken husk of a human being. Oh, and don't "act up" or they'll send you to Jamaica where it's even easier to cut you off from the rest of the world. And child labor laws are much weaker there.

All to "cure" you being gay, or atheist, or socially awkward, or what have you. For just 3000 a month, your child can be 'normal' too.

And apparently this is legal.

What in the ever loving fuck??
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LeighAD Featured By Owner Dec 28, 2013
To be fair, these places have really nice websites and brochures and New Horizons (I may have the name wrong) even brags about training its people to watch for signs of abuse. They even train their staff in CPR in suicide prevention (*ahem* is there a particular reason we should be concerned our kids will kill themselves while they're). (I think having quotes from current students about how great it is there was a bit over the top since they're likely to lie not to lose a meal or get stuck their longer)

Sometimes well-meaning parents send their children here for legitimate behavioral problems in hopes of getting treatment, not stupid religious differences. These parents would likely remove their children if they knew what was going on, but these places monitor and control all communication making it impossible for kids to tell their parents.

Plus since these places are for "bad kids," no one believes them. They're just lying or exaggerating - hardly a credible witness. Unfortunately, that outlook is what makes them so vulnerable. Same way that mental institutions can get away with abuse because its denizens are all crazy and paranoid and therefore not credible (that said, abuse in mental institutions isn't part of the "program," it's just hard to get people to believe you when you suffer delusions, hallucinations, paranoia, or can't coherently communicate to others).
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Amaroq-Wolf Featured By Owner Mar 11, 2012
Holy shit. I thought you were talking about normal public schooling for a second there. This is literally like concentration camps.

Many of the things the staff there do to the kids are the same things the Nazis did to people in the concentration camps. Fucked around with them on a whim. Assigned them to groups where the whole group was responsible for the actions of the individual. Etc. It was their emotionalist and collectivist philosophy manifest in physical form, forced on defenseless victims.

I seriously recommend reading The Ominous Parallels, by Dr. Leonard Peikoff. He examines the philosophical history of Germany leading up to the takeover of Hitler, and compares it to the current philosophical trends in America, noting the many "Ominous Parallels" between pre-Nazi Germany and modern America.
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procon-8 Featured By Owner Mar 3, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
Whether a child becomes a conservative, liberal, gay, straight, atheiest, Christian, a hippie, etc.
They should come to that conclusion themselves. Any self respecting parent should know this.
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Nine-By-Eight Featured By Owner Mar 1, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Jesus Christ......!
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Onni-Hitsok Featured By Owner Mar 1, 2012  Student Filmographer
Control and Obedience...

Two of the things people in power want out of the poor, or mid class people of this world... If they cannot control them then they will destroy them.

This kind of thing invokes fanatical behavior no matter what ones beliefs are...

If someone can produce a copy of the contracts that are signed for this kind of thing im sure they will have some way to make it all seem legal... If it sounds the way it does to me than its in the contracts...
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DawnSentinel Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2012
Oh come on, It's like not public schools are any different.
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FablePaint Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2012  Professional Filmographer
Not sure if joke...
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Silver-Comet Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2012
Yeah these things periodically get shut down (although not even a little bit as often as they should be) I kind of want to go in with a rocket launcher and a convoy of trucks and steal these children away and teach them that it is okay to be themselves and things are not horrible.

Ugh seriously these "schools" piss me off so much.
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MoonstalkerWerewolf Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I think people should be calling such places hypocritical of the real message. And of course people will point fingers, which is not a good way to go...It's inaccurate to say all those who have some religion are a bunch of lowlife abusive nutcases, because the vast majority are not. When you have fanatics with inherently evil intentions that they blindly back by religion when the religion likely speaks AGAINST such abuse, that's not the religion's fault. It's the people who use it as an excuse to justify their own evil. I myself am Catholic and I don't stand for anything like that. That's outrageous and wouldn't be what God or Jesus want at all...that's a matter of fact. People like that overlook the real message and enforce distortions with hate and abuse.

Anything can be sullied at the hands of a human being when they have evil intentions. It's best not to point fingers at particular groups; people hate each other for just being different and that goes for everyone. Not all atheists and such are tolerant, not all Christians are intolerant hypocrites. And America is not full of places like these. Generalizing is always a bane.
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Dimensionsatire Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2012
It's sad that the few nutjobs make a bad name for everyone else. (Staunch agnostic and proud, I wouldn't have survived that place.)
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MoonstalkerWerewolf Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Definitely, I get so tired of it. I don't think people should abuse agnostics or athiests and such, that's not good at all.

But, having some experience with fanatics(although fanaticism can go for all denominations), they'll hate on you if you don't fit their particular denomination as well. Happened with me when I was surrounded by pretty radical protestants (unsure of what kind). It's highly saddening when THAT happens let alone people who may or may not believe in God to begin with. The fanatics are totally convinced that THEIR way down to every little detail is the absolute and only way, so even within some groups of Christians they'll hate on each other for having some doctrinal differences.

So those kinds of people make God cry, as I like to say. They give people who try being real Christians and all look very bad. Christians aren't supposed to be like that at all...There's a big problem there when they're not even following what they claim to be so firm in.
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Black-Platinum Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2012
I'm a Christian, I believe in God, and I'm so tired of people using religion as a way to abuse and control children. They don't care about the children or the religion itself, they just want an excuse to have power over them. That's why I despise control freaks! No kid should ever have to go through any kind of torture. So giving a kid post traumatic stress disorder or something like that is making them normal? That makes me sick. Stupid people. Since when does disagreeing with what your child does mean you have the right to beat them or let someone else do it for you? Parents are supposed to protect their kids from harm, not cause it! I don't have babies of my own, but if anyone tried to hurt my little cousins or my nephew, they would be in a world of pain. Oh, and of COURSE it's legal. Since when do people in power care about children being abused? Or maybe some do, but it seems like more and more don't.
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RemLezar Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
It's legal because it hides behind religion, and because religion is so everpresent they can get away with abusive or mind-destroying things like this. My friend was almost sent away to one of these kind of camps for coming out as gay, and barely got out of it. It didn't stop his family from being cruel and monstrous later, but at least he was spared that particular horror.
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Eviecats Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2012
What a terrifying concept. In a backward way, it reminds me of my teenagehood, where my dad remarried a schitzofrenic who is super religious. They didn't send em to a "camp" but she did her best to use some of those tactics on me, under the sheen of religion. After I moved out at 17 with nothing but the clothes on my back a couple years passed and she was diagnosed schitzofrenic delusional and has been in and out of shock therapy and hospitals ever since. I'm almost 30 and still waiting for my well deserved apology.
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Korak-the-Mad Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I've heard about these sort of programs. It sickens me to know that they exist, and what they do to people if they won't conform.

I probably would have gone on a killing spree, because I may be socially awkward, but I like being who I am. I will not let someone try to change me by beating the crap out of me. I have been one who doesn't like to conform, in ways of thinking and speaking, for I like to be a little unusual.

Places like this should be shut down, but sadly they most likely won't.
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Deathcomes4u Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2012  Professional General Artist
Welcome to America, the land of the carefully manipulated to think they are free but are really just birds who are taught to love their cage.
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RPSpartan117 Featured By Owner Feb 26, 2012
I think I'd kill my way out, and I'm not the violent type that cracks. Sadly enough, I think one of those places would've drove me mad, rather than bend to their views. I think my mom threatened me with something similar to this a while back. Bleh. Wonder what shit would've been like if I did this.
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Mauser7 Featured By Owner Feb 26, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Lordy, had my parents found out about these and been able to afford it, I would have been sent to one of these as a kid. I honestly am no longer shocked by how low fundies will sink to make sure their children don't find out how the world really works.
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Marvforty2 Featured By Owner Feb 26, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
I'm sorry but do you have anymore information about this? Really it's just a buch of anonymous atheist blogger's word against a crappy looking website, I don't really see any way to be upset about this when there are little facts to prove it. I found very little info after googling "horizon academy", however, I did find from [link] , that Horizon academy was a branch from the World Wide Association of Specialty Programs, but even though some of their other schools were closed, some due to child abuse, there was very little information about horizon. I'm not saying that this school is not a bit of a... shady establishment, but I am just finding little information about it. I don't know why I did so much research... I need to go to bed. :/
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FablePaint Featured By Owner Feb 26, 2012  Professional Filmographer
"anonymous atheist blogger's word against a crappy looking website"

First off, "atheist" isn't a reason to discredit this.
Second, there's a considerable amount of news articles, programs, and a documentary called "Kidnapped for Christ".
Programs like this pop up again and again every time one of them closes down. They just ship up and move out.
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Marvforty2 Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
Sorry I was tired last night and did not word that post properly. I was not discrediting the site because it was atheist, I'm was trying to say that when the crap flies between atheists and christians you always get a few ridiculous claims from both sides. I also only researched this article for 5 minutes so I might have missed something, but I did not come across any documentary called, "Kidnapped for Christ", thank you for sharing.
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Usagi-Zakura Featured By Owner Feb 26, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I just lost faith in USA....again.
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ScorpioTongue Featured By Owner Feb 26, 2012
It's horrifying to find out places like this exist... I feel like if my stepfather had ever found out about one of these, I would have been sent to it. Thankfully, that never happened.

Some kids deserve something done to them, but not like this. Watching the graduate "testimonials" from Horizon academy... you can see how they're uncomfortable talking about it.
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kiki-doodle Featured By Owner Feb 26, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
*barf*

I don't even know what I can say to this to explain how disgusted I am.
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EiraSenam Featured By Owner Feb 26, 2012  Student Digital Artist
Oh god I think I might throw up... What the ever-lasting fuck I don't even...
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Pozem Featured By Owner Feb 26, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Wow, that's bad I'm amazed they haven't stopped these places.
But in the end the world is screwed up especially the internet.
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FablePaint Featured By Owner Feb 26, 2012  Professional Filmographer
The internet doesn't forcibly drag you out of your home and starve you if you don't bow your head to the principle. Somehow i think this is much worst
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Pozem Featured By Owner Feb 26, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I didn't meant that the internet is worst.
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Brigpod Featured By Owner Feb 26, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Thank god my parents never sent me to these places. I would've been beaten up to the point of death, being as stubborn as I am.

But then again, My parents like me to be a free-thinker, and that's why they didn't make me do Girl scouts and got me out of a indoctrinating private school as fast as they could. (Oh yeah, that school LOVED me.)
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dodgyrommer Featured By Owner Feb 26, 2012  Student Digital Artist
Forcing kids into camps cos they don't believe what you do... disgusting. Even if the camps were about making children believe that cartoons are the best form of art I would be against it. :P
I'm ever so grateful to have family that accepted me for who I was - a socially awkward gender-confused nonreligious kid. I'm all for creating some kind of art piece to bring this more into public awareness. I knew about Jesus camps, but I didn't know it got this absurd.
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FlameShuken Featured By Owner Feb 26, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
Read the whole account the one guy wrote out about his experience... oh god that's horrifying
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Draken693 Featured By Owner Feb 26, 2012
Mormons... '-_-
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LadyElfie2000 Featured By Owner Feb 26, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I'm mormon and took as much offense to the article as everybody else. No finger pointing please.
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Draken693 Featured By Owner Feb 26, 2012
The area where this is located is heavily Mormon and I apologize for saying this without originally looking up who founded this. It was non-denominational christian church. So...

Christians... '-_-
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Furrama Featured By Owner Feb 26, 2012   Digital Artist
No no, not Christians. That would imply that they were somehow Christ like.

It's "Christians" with the air-quotes. And sick.
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Amaroq-Wolf Featured By Owner Mar 11, 2012
Most religious people in America are moderate to some degree. The ones that do shit like this are the ones who take their religion the most consistently.

When you turn to faith, you abandon reason. And when you abandon reason as a method of dealing with people, all that's left is force.
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Draken693 Featured By Owner Feb 26, 2012
Good point. I'm not completely politically correct.
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Furrama Featured By Owner Feb 26, 2012   Digital Artist
Politically correctness has nothing to do with it. This IS a call it as you see it sort of thing. Jesus was rather clear about what he thought about child abusers. I think it was: It would be better for him if he had a mill stone tied around his neck and was hurled into the sea.
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Draken693 Featured By Owner Feb 26, 2012
Nah I should call it how it is.

Evil.
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Bunni89 Featured By Owner Feb 26, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Oh my fucking god. Pardon my language but JESUS! I wanna take the lord's name in vain SO MUCH..
Is there any way we can help shut these shitholes down? It's hell on earth, these kids wouldn't need to fear going to one if becoming one of christ's little sheep meant this sort of torture..
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marydemauro Featured By Owner Feb 26, 2012  Student General Artist
...I think I'm going to be sick.

Wait... let me guess. People on the autism spectrum can be found here, too, yes? XP
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FablePaint Featured By Owner Feb 26, 2012  Professional Filmographer
Parents send their kids there for sassing at them. The reasons are mutable.
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marydemauro Featured By Owner Feb 26, 2012  Student General Artist
It's just sickening...
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shadechristiwolven Featured By Owner Feb 26, 2012
I remember reading about a camp like this one yeeeeaaaaarrrrs ago and thinking to myself "how in the WORLD is this legal?" It infuriated me then, and to realize that it's still going on drives me up a freaking wall.

Turns out a lot (read: all of those who end up realizing that they need to seek help) of the kids who come out of there end up being treated for PTSD and other trauma-related psychosis. "Cure" indeed.
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Furrama Featured By Owner Feb 26, 2012   Digital Artist
Ick.
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VoodooGecko Featured By Owner Feb 26, 2012  Student Digital Artist
But seriously, this is mortifying. I feel like puking from reading the thread and the responses.

I read one response were students at the concentration camp (I'm not calling it a school) found a duck and it became the groups pet. The head supervisor saw how much fun they were having and snapped the ducks neck right in front of them to prove a point.

It makes me want to march down there with a couple drums of gasoline and a few match boxes and light the place up. *sigh* However, violence isn't the answer.

What can we do (non-violently) to stop this nazi corporation?
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Feral-Serval Featured By Owner Feb 26, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
" What in the ever loving fuck? "

Took the words right out of my mouth.
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VoodooGecko Featured By Owner Feb 26, 2012  Student Digital Artist
"What in the ever loving fuck??"
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PrinceofPride Featured By Owner Feb 26, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I had a teacher tell me about this a while back. I can't believe this kind of stuff is still going on.
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CaliberArts Featured By Owner Feb 26, 2012  Student Digital Artist
Holy goddamn. I've never heard about this before, but... this is just sick. It's beyond sick, it's inhuman.
This needs to be stopped. This is just too ridiculous.... I found another site that talks about this too, and what people have complained about: [link] It gives a whole list of the stuff people have allegedly done there, as well as a list of the schools.
THIS IS FUCKING WRONG.
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